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I also question that. Let's wait until tomorrow.

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>From: sylvester pollet <[log in to unmask]>
>To: [log in to unmask]
>Subject: Re: Ashbery and Pound?
>Date: Thu, Nov 27, 2003, 12:28 PM
>

> Is it kind to call Ashbery "a stale creampuff" on Thanksgiving? Bon
> appetit! Sylvester
>
> At 2:09 PM +0900 11/27/03, Wayne Pounds wrote:
>>I think this query deserves a better response. Being familiar with the
>>writer's native culture and language, let me restate what I understand of the
>>query. Then I'll try to respond, and I hope others will join me.
>>
>>>I am now reading Ashbery's poems, which puzzle me a lot. Did Pound
>>>appreciate Ashbery or recognize him as a young poet from whom important work
>>could be expected? Or was >he outside of Pound's interest?
>>
>>The answer to your first quest, I believe, is no. I think that by the time
>>Ashbery's poetry began to appear in print, Pound had little interest in young
>>poets. He thought he had done enough to recognize and encourage young talent
>>during the three decades before WWII. During and after the war, he believed
>>he had more important things to do.
>>
>>Nor do i think Pound would have appreciated Ashbery's work if he had seen it.
>>In his early years in London and Paris, he appreciated surrealism as an
>>avant-garde movement, but by the thirties he felt that surrealist art was
>>"stale creampuffs" and anyone still doing it was merely recycling the
>>contents of some ancestral trunk in the attic.
>>
>>That's all that comes to mind right now. Perhaps someone else could comment?
>>
>>Wayne Pounds
>>
>>Tim Romano wrote:
>>
>>>  Yes, to a "wide, tepidly meandering" stream.
>>>  Tim Romano
>>>
>>>  At 11/25/03 10:23 AM +0900, =?iso-2022-jp?B?GyRCRU9KVT8uRnMbKEI=?= wrote:
>>>  >-Please give me some hints:
>>>  >I am now reading Ashbery's poems which puzzle me a lot. Did Pound
>>>  >appreciate, or expect, him? Or was he out of Pound's interest? Does
>>>  >he bring, or keep, American poetry and the English Poetry to some
>>>  >stream?
>>>  >

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