I'd like to see the rest of the poem.
----- Original Message -----
From: "jason sweitzer" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 10:54 AM
Subject: Re: Imagism and Joyce
> Re: Auguries of Innocence
>
> 93 The questioner, who sits so sly,
> 94 Shall never know how to reply.
>
> --- [log in to unmask] wrote:
> > Cf. Blake's "questioner who sits so sly...." (quoted
> > from memory) -- maybe
> > RF knew that line.
> >
> > Jim
> >
> > Jim Loucks
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> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: - Ezra Pound discussion list of the University
> > of Maine
> > [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of
> > charles moyer
> > Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 11:39 AM
> > To: [log in to unmask]
> > Subject: Re: Imagism and Joyce
> >
> > Kate,
> > In this vein you may want to look at Pound's
> > "Confucius", particularly
> > the "Chung Yung : The Unwobbling Pivot".
> >
> > Charles
> >
> > ----------
> > >From: Kate Cone <[log in to unmask]>
> > >To: [log in to unmask]
> > >Subject: Re: Imagism and Joyce
> > >Date: Wed, Mar 13, 2002, 4:48 AM
> > >
> >
> > > Tim:
> > >
> > > I've been reading C's poetry and bio's for over 30
> > years. In fact, as a
> > > result of my research and inquiries to Jay Parini
> > at Middlebury, a Frost
> > > scholar and biographer, I've been asked to write
> > the Cummings article for
> > > the Oxford Encyclopedia of American Literature,
> > which Parini is editing.
> > > (wheeee!!!)
> > >
> > > Frost I knew as all American students do -- the
> > anthologized poems. I
> > loved
> > > the imagery, but didn't "get" how deep they were
> > then. But one little poem
> > > hit me a different way:
> > >
> > > The Secret Sits
> > >
> > > We dance 'round a ring and suppose.
> > > The secret sits in the middle and knows.
> > >
> > > Frost
> > >
> > > ****
> > >
> > > seeker of truth
> > >
> > > follow no path
> > > all paths lead where
> > >
> > > truth is here
> > >
> > > Cummings
> > >
> > > ****
> > >
> > > At first I thought of this type of poem as having
> > a Zen influence, but on
> > > further investigation I learned that both C and F
> > were tremendously
> > > influenced by Emerson, whose essay "Circles"
> > pretty much pegs the notion
> > of
> > > coming back: "I keep and pass and turn again."
> > (Brahma).
> > >
> > > Anyway, the nature poetry of C and F are the most
> > alike in that regard.
> > > Where Pound comes in: he was among some other
> > influential poets met in
> > > England and was instrumental in getting Frost's
> > first two books
> > > well-reviewed in England, essentially "making"
> > Frost the first and perhaps
> > > only best-selling American poet of the 20th
> > century. As a young poet at
> > > Harvard, Cummings' notebooks show a keen interest
> > in being part of the
> > > imagist movement.
> > >
> > > I guess what I'm asking for are any thoughts at
> > all about Pound's
> > influence
> > > and/or dealings with either Frost or Cummings. And
> > with regard to Mr.
> > > Savage's comment about Frost's poor treatment of
> > Pound -- if you could
> > > elaborate further on that/those incident/s, it
> > would give me more insight
> > --
> > > was Frost abandoning a poet who helped him in
> > order to "lay low" from
> > > controversy? This will further my theory that
> > Frost "invented" himself as
> > a
> > > Yankee farmer poet and didn't want to rock any
> > boat by being involved
> > > (publicly) in the politics of the day. Cummings
> > was much more "in your
> > > face."
> > >
> > > Thanks!
> > >
> > > Kate
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Tim Romano" <[log in to unmask]>
> > > To: <[log in to unmask]>
> > > Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 6:15 AM
> > > Subject: Re: Imagism and Joyce
> > >
> > >
> > >> Kate,
> > >> What do you think their work has in common? I see
> > no similarity, though I
> > >> must admit that I don't know cummings's work
> > inside and out.
> > >> Tim Romano
> > >>
> > >> Kate Cone wrote:
> > >>
> > >> >I am writing my masters thesis on how E.E.
> > Cummings and Robert Frost's
> > >> >poetry are related.
> > >>
>
>
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