I cannot imagine that Guy brought those 2 guys in
though, they were signed up and recruited a long time
ago... and Payson played for Kerluke in HS...
while Guy might be green, I do not think that he had a
lot do do with House and Payson.
--- Bob Woodbury <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> > Are we recruiting people with poor character
> > to begin with?
>
> I think there may be some merit to this question. We
> have a younger,
> less experienced recruiter now. He may be anxious to
> make his mark
> and is only looking for talent. He may also feel
> pressure considering
> the man he "replaced," who is not replaceable.
>
> On Jan 30, 2008, at 9:57 PM, Adam Parker wrote:
>
> > The BDN got the Hamilton situation completely
> wrong. But, the
> > paper broke
> > the House situation - and even though charges were
> dropped, I
> > believe he
> > admitted to doing something completely stupid (a
> sideways admission of
> > guilt). So, maybe they are 50/50 right now.
> >
> > In the end - maybe there's a greater question. We
> keep having
> > students who
> > put themselves into situations like this. Whether
> House groped,
> > Payson
> > punched or Hamilton did whatever, they were still
> in questionable
> > situations. How frequently is this going to
> happen? Is it the
> > college
> > environment that's causing it? Are we recruiting
> people with poor
> > character
> > to begin with?
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: The Maine Hockey Discussion List [mailto:ME-
>
> > [log in to unmask]] On
> > Behalf Of james acheson
> > Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2008 12:48 PM
> > To: [log in to unmask]
> > Subject: Re: Payson arrested for assault ...
> >
> > WHile my knee jerk reaction is that this looks
> bad...
> >
> > PLEASE lets all remember that police reports only
> have enough
> > information
> > written to make the arrest... and that is what was
> reported in the
> > BDN...
> > same paper that got the Hamilton incident so
> screwed up that it was
> > laughable.
> >
> > the BDN is not going to report anything but the
> police report and
> > the police
> > report will not have anything in it except enough
> allegations and
> > admissions
> > to make an arrest.
> > so we have a kid with a broken bone who stated
> that Payson did it.
> > we have no police witnesses so we need a serious
> > injury AND an admission by Payson. (the
> admission
> > was that he was there and the he contacted the
> kid;s head... NOT
> > THAT HE IS
> > GUILTY OF AGGRAVATED ASSAULT)
> >
> > the police got their admission and so they made
> the arrest.
> > there might have been extenuating circumstances or
> self defense....
> > neither
> > of which even belong in a police report, so we are
> not going to
> > hear about
> > either one until there is a trial.... at the
> arraignment, all we
> > will hear
> > is the injury plus the admission.
> >
> > judge if you want/must... but please understand
> that you are
> > judging based
> > on a police report
> > --- Nonni Daly <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> >
> >> I agree, Deron. But, no one has a corner on
> being stupid, which this
> >> certainly is, and violent as well. Testosterone
> and alcohol --
> >> such a
> >> lovely mix. As is estrogen and alcohol, as you
> can find by
> >> setting up
> >> your own Facebook account and seeing the pride
> with which today's
> >> "young adults" post stupid photos of themselves.
> Shame isn't a part
> >> of the equation any more and it should be ...
> okay, will get off my
> >> "much older adult" soapbox by adding an old maxim
> of which my dear
> >> aunt reminded me and I never forgot it: "Fool's
> names and fool's
> >> faces
> >> are often seen in public places" ... :) Nonni
> >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> >> Don't want to think I could go to another life
> where there are no
> >> horses!
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: Deron Treadwell
> >> To: [log in to unmask]
> >> Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2008 9:14 AM
> >> Subject: Re: Payson arrested for assault ...
> >>
> >>
> >> Well, I've done plenty of things wrong in my
> life, but I never did
> >> walk across a room at 2:30 in the morning (on a
> Monday morning
> >> actually) and punch a guy in his eye socket so
> hard that it broke his
> >> eye socket possibly requiring surgery.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Let me ask this - How much different is this
> situation to Tanner
> >> House? At first blush it seems much worse
> because it is violent as
> >> well as stupid (as opposed to just stupid), but
> if anyone else will
> >> recall Tanner House never actually had charges
> pressed and the whole
> >> thing "went away". This also hindered Tanner's
> development. Right
> >> now Sweetland and House look like two of our more
> promising young
> >> players. How good would be be if he hadn't had
> this incident?
> >>
> >>
> >> In this case, Payson was arrested and admitted
> (to some extent and
> >> according to the media) that he did put his hands
> (my words) on this
> >> guy, who also has obvious, documented injuries.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Certainly no good for Payson, the team or the
> university any way
> >> you
> >> slice it.
> >>
> >> It is too bad to have this happen just when the
> team was
> >> starting to
> >> play better.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On 1/30/08, Nonni Daly <[log in to unmask]>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> > http://bangornews.com/news/t/maineblackbears.aspx?
>
> > articleid=159527&zoneid=22
> > 5
> >>
> >> More fodder for those who "never did a wrong
> thing" in their
> >> lives
> >> ... have at it!
> >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> >> Don't want to think I could go to another
> life where there are no
> >> horses!
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
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