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> Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2004 10:08:01 -0800 (PST)
> From: William <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: UMass-Lowell to forfeit five games

> I agree that Falco should've maybe perhaps scratched his head, but
> what if he did ask? I hold the coaching staff/administration
> accountable here. Part of being a coach, and we can debate all day
> and night just how big a part it is or should be, is knowing the
> rules. It's that simple. You don't know the rules, and something like
> this happens. The NCAA will tell you it can only punish the school,
> which we all know really punishes the kids. There's always plenty of
> blame to pass around in a situation like this, and there are no
> winners - although folks at UMass and Merrimack could see things
> differently this morning. Because the NCAA can't discipline coaches,
> the school must. While I'm sure it was an innocent mistake, if I'm a
> UMass-Lowell student or a River Hawks fan, I'm feeling like part of
> an otherwise impressive season just got robbed.
>
> Deron Treadwell <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> Can Paul Falco not read the eligibility requirements? There is some
> personal responsibility here too. If you are only taking two or three
> classes as an undergrad, hmmm.. maybe I should check to see if I am
> meeting
> my eligiblity requirements?
>
> When something like this happens, it's always sad for everyone else,
> the
> kids who do pay attention and pay the price. But as Nonni says, that
> is the
> NCAA way.. if coaches screw up, they can leave the program and go
> coach
> somewhere else with no penalty, while the school and his kids (who
> he/she
> abandoned) pay the price (read: Rick Neuheisel at Colorado football).
>
> Administrators screw up, they are not personally held responsible and
> personally penalized (sans the few times people are fired for this
> type of
> thing). I think that if your job is to make sure that your
> student-athletes
> are in compliance of NCAA rules, one of the EASIEST things to check
> is are
> they registered for enough classes. Even with hundreds of athletes,
> it is
> not hard to run a report and check total credits BEFORE the add/drop
> period
> ends and advise those kids who don't have enough credits. To me,
> someone in
> the Lowell administration should be looking for a new job this
> weekend.
>
> -Deron
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Matt Dewkett"
> To:
> Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2004 3:47 AM
> Subject: Re: UMass-Lowell to forfeit five games
>
>
> > The interesting thing is that USCHO reports the
> > ineligible player as former UMaine player Paul Falco.
> > It seems that the team and University did not sign him
> > up for enough classes...
> >
> >
> > --- John Russell Lombard
> > wrote:
> > > Being a Michigan State student does anyone know how
> > > UMass's having to forfet their win over us effect
> > > our (MSU's) W-L record and standings?
> > >
> > > GO MAINE!
> > > Russ Lombard
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: William

> > > Sent: Friday, January 30, 2004 10:57 PM
> > > Subject: UMass-Lowell to forfeit five games
> > >
> > >
> > > This changes things a bit ....
> > >
> > > Mass.-Lowell forfeits five victories for using an
> > > ineligible player
> > >
> > > Associated Press
> > >
> > > LOWELL, Mass. - Massachusetts-Lowell has forfeited
> > > five victories for using an ineligible player, the
> > > university announced on Friday.
> > >
> > > The university, during a routine compliance
> > > review, discovered that the team had used an
> > > ineligible player who transferred to the school in
> > > the spring of 2003 but who had not gained
> > > eligibility for the 2003-2004 season. The university
> > > did not name the player, who played in nine games
> > > this season before the mistake was discovered.
> > >
> > > Athletic director Dana Skinner reported the
> > > infraction to the NCAA on Thursday.
> > >
> > > "The fact that current members of the hockey team
> > > must suffer for an administrative error is something
> > > that causes me great anguish," he said.
> > >
> > > The River Hawks must forfeit two Hockey East
> > > victories against Massachusetts, one against
> > > Merrimack and non-league wins over Union and
> > > Michigan State.
> > >
> > > With the forfeits, UMass-Lowell's record drops
> > > from 13-11-3 overall and 8-4-1 in Hockey East to
> > > 8-16-3 overall, 5-7-1 in Hockey East.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
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