for what it's worth........Barrett Heisten was one of my favorite Maine players, (and 10 times the player Chris was). I vividly remember him picking up a puck in the d zone, and flying by EVERYONE on the ice at bu one year to go in for a shot. The speed and skill was so tremendous, I can't remember if he even scored. I enjoyed his play making etc, but I thought he made a big mistake leaving. I think some of these kids may want to live out their dream, yes, but could use another year or two developing a product instead of a chance. Buffalo wanted nothing to do with him, so he went to Seattle (Thunderbirds), then NY Rangers, where we all know no matter how good you may be, you'll sit behind the "payroll"players.
The QMJHL (and all major junior) is a different brand than D1, obviously, and it's hard to say which is a better road. Good luck to Dustin, too bad he decided to fly the coop, but only these kids know what they want to do, and though we all have differing opinions of what might be "right", we have to respect their decisions.
>
> From: steve hayes <[log in to unmask]>
> Date: 2004/05/16 Sun PM 12:04:44 EDT
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: Penner Goes Pro
>
> levielle is a tough little fella with wonderful skills he might make it in the nhl i think someone will give him a chance on the other hand penner has the size the nhl is looking for
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: james acheson
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Sent: Friday, May 14, 2004 2:55 PM
> Subject: Re: Penner Goes Pro
>
>
> my guess... Levielle will be a much better NHLer than Barrett Heisten, Dustin Penner, Saviano, Rosa... I can keep going...
>
> how come noone wooed him away???
> I do not think he will be as good as Brian Gionta... gionta had it all... Levielle will be another Adam Oates.... great vision and passing and not alot of goal scoring.
>
>
>
> "Voisine, Cory" <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> Using Heisten isn't a good example. He left on his own, not because a pro team signed him. He left and went major junior to get to the nhl quicker via the Van Ryn loop-hole. He spent time in Seattle and then was signed as a free agent. He wasn't getting the offers from Buffalo(I think???) and figured by going major junior he could go to the NHL the following season. Given they closed the Van Ryn rule(see older Aquino), drafted players don't have as much power on their side.
>
> Penner on the other hand is a 6' 4" 230 lbs. FREE-AGENT that showed he can be a top forward at the college level. He had one more season at Maine, and probably Anaheim said we better sign him early rather than compete this time next year. Like I said, I'd be surprised if it was just Anaheim after Penner.
>
> In their(NHL) eyes the 3 inches and 20 lbs Penner has over Heisten goes a long ways in making up any gap in skills the two might have when youa re looking to make a project out of a player. Not sure I agree with it, but that is the way it is and it shouldn't surprise people. Guys like Boyle of BC get picked iearly first round and guys like Marty Kariya go in the late rounds.
>
> -Cory
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: The Maine Hockey Discussion List [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of james acheson
> Sent: Friday, May 14, 2004 9:08 AM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: Penner Goes Pro
>
>
> what is odd is that he has a long way to go.
>
> look at Barrett Heisten, surely much more polised the day he walking onto the Alfond ice than Penner was the day after he lost to Denver. Heisten may never grow as tall, but I bet a million bucks he will always hit harder and be a hell of alot harder to knock off his skates than Penner... and Heisten handles the puck infinitely better then Penner ... and there was nothing ODD about Heisten leaving Maine... he was ready to go. Penner has a long way to go... he will not even be a good AHLer yet in my opinion.
>
> "Voisine, Cory" <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> Nothing odd about it at all. He has about 4 inches and 30 lbs. on most college players. He's got the frame for the pros. He skated well and had good hands. Pro teams like the potential of a guy like that. He also had one year of eligibility left and was undrafted, therefore he had a slight amount of bargain power on his size. He played well on a big stage. All things were lining up, and it would have been "ODD" if the pros didn't notice him. Imagine there were several pro teams interested in Penner as a minor-pro 3 year project.
>
> -Cory
> -----Original Message-----
> From: The Maine Hockey Discussion List [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of james acheson
> Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2004 10:32 AM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: Penner Goes Pro
>
>
> that is ODD... I thought he was the ONE guy on the team who would have benefitted from another year in college. he is nowhere near ready for the pros. He was able to stick handle and deke out a couple guys only to lose control or hav the puck taken away by teh one last defenseman he needed to beat in order to get a scoring opportunity... about 3 times a game. he cannot finish... not yet, not like Niko did.
>
> oh well.
>
>
> Deron Treadwell <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> http://www.goblackbears.com/hockeym/20032004/051204.html
>
> May 12, 2004
> ANAHEIM MIGHTY DUCKS SIGN DUSTIN PENNER
> ORONO, Maine - The Anaheim Mighty Ducks announced today that they have
> signed University of Maine forward Dustin Penner to a three-year
> contract. Contract terms were not disclosed.
>
> Penner, a 6-4, 230, ended the season with eleven goals and twelve
> assists for 23 points in 43 games played in his junior year. Five of
> his goals were on the power play. He also had 18 penalties for 52
> minutes. He helped the Black Bears reach the NCAA championship game,
> scoring the game-winning goal against Boston College in the semifinals.
> He also scored Maine's first goal in the three-overtime Hockey East
> Championship game victory against Massachusetts. At the Maine Hockey
> Awards banquet last week, he was named recipient of the Jack Semler
> ! ! ! Most Improved Player Award.
>
> The 21-year old native of Winkler, Manitoba native sat out the 2002-03
> season as a redshirt. He transferred to Maine from Minot State
> University-Bottineau, where he played in 23 games and had 23 points. He
> also had earned MVP honors from his high school team.
>
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