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Is it kind to call Ashbery "a stale creampuff" on Thanksgiving? Bon
appetit! Sylvester

At 2:09 PM +0900 11/27/03, Wayne Pounds wrote:
>I think this query deserves a better response. Being familiar with the
>writer's native culture and language, let me restate what I understand of the
>query. Then I'll try to respond, and I hope others will join me.
>
>>I am now reading Ashbery's poems, which puzzle me a lot. Did Pound
>>appreciate Ashbery or recognize him as a young poet from whom important work
>could be expected? Or was >he outside of Pound's interest?
>
>The answer to your first quest, I believe, is no. I think that by the time
>Ashbery's poetry began to appear in print, Pound had little interest in young
>poets. He thought he had done enough to recognize and encourage young talent
>during the three decades before WWII. During and after the war, he believed
>he had more important things to do.
>
>Nor do i think Pound would have appreciated Ashbery's work if he had seen it.
>In his early years in London and Paris, he appreciated surrealism as an
>avant-garde movement, but by the thirties he felt that surrealist art was
>"stale creampuffs" and anyone still doing it was merely recycling the
>contents of some ancestral trunk in the attic.
>
>That's all that comes to mind right now. Perhaps someone else could comment?
>
>Wayne Pounds
>
>Tim Romano wrote:
>
>>  Yes, to a "wide, tepidly meandering" stream.
>>  Tim Romano
>>
>>  At 11/25/03 10:23 AM +0900, =?iso-2022-jp?B?GyRCRU9KVT8uRnMbKEI=?= wrote:
>>  >-Please give me some hints:
>>  >I am now reading Ashbery's poems which puzzle me a lot. Did Pound
>>  >appreciate, or expect, him? Or was he out of Pound's interest? Does
>>  >he bring, or keep, American poetry and the English Poetry to some
>>  >stream?
>>  >

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