It seems to me that contributing to this list carries with it the
danger of unseemly argument. Veteran Pound readers and list
contributors have for the most part done their jobs well, and have been
quite helpful and informative, but some have also been quick to flex
rhetorical muscles against whomever offers a target. I personally am
sick of the Tim Romano / Francis Gavin "irony" debate, and am not
interested in reading such ad hominem polemics, at least, not when they
were not written by EP himself.
There's no need on the other hand for me or anyone else to make some
sort of "let's stay on task" plea. Personally, I don't mind the
silence this list is prone to (though I'm hesitant to call such silence
"satori".) I much prefer infrequent but interesting list-traffic over
the rhetorical bladder-spilling that often here takes the place of
honest discussion. In short, please stop misunderestimating satori on
my bandwidth. Write nothing when nothing presents itself, and stop
mistaking peoples' posts for threats, offenses or prompts to nastiness.
Here's a funny poem made entirely of direct presidential quotations, to
prove I'm not just a sourpuss. (I should admit at the outset that I
did not compile this poem; if anyone knows its "author" (editor?),
please let me know.)
"Make the Pie Higher", by George W. Bush
"I think we all agree, the past is over.
This is still a dangerous world.
It's a world of madmen and uncertainty
and potential mental losses.
Rarely is the question asked
Is our children learning?
Will the highways of the Internet become more few?
How many hands have I shaked?
They misunderestimate me.
I am a pitbull on the pantleg of opportunity.
I know that the human being and the fish can coexist.
families is where our nation finds hope, where
our wings take dream.
Put food on your family!
Knock down the tollbooth!
Vulcanize Society!
Make the pie higher! Make the pie higher!"
Take care-
Jon W.
On Tuesday, January 21, 2003, at 07:26 AM, Tim Romano wrote:
> The irony is that you yourself have not contributed to any discussion
> about
> Pound on this list in months, and when have contributed, the
> "contribution"
> has invariably been in the form of scintillating sarcasm. Say something
> measured and intelligent about Pound. Try a sentence or two without
> the
> sarcasm. Go on. You might tell us something about Pound's Homage to
> Sextus
> Propertius.
> Tim Romano
>
>
>
> At 08:52 PM 1/20/03 -0800, Francis Gavin wrote:
>> on 1/20/03 9:40 AM, Tim Romano at [log in to unmask] wrote:
>>
>> > You call what you do "irony"?
>>
>>
>>
>> My point exactly. I said you'd lost your sense of irony, had you
>> indeed ever
>> had the good fortune to possess one initially. The original purpose
>> of my
>> missive about cadaverous lists being to generate response, which it
>> did. The
>> person who responded in agreement, was lauding that need for greater
>> vigor
>> in these promiscuous parts. Get it Tim? There is the desire for more
>> people
>> to speak their mind.
>>
>> Senses of irony notwithstanding my appeal apparently somehow
>> penetrated into
>> the shallow murky depths of your backwash of a virgin swamp
>> intelligence
>> causing this whole reptilian exchange to take place. Pluses, one
>> supposes
>> outweighing the minuses if for no other reason than that of slapping
>> around
>> the village martinet.
>>
>> GAVIN
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> >
>> > At 01:33 AM 1/20/03 -0800, Francis Gavin wrote:
>> >> Romano:
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> A bucket of wet cement might make an excellent adhesive in some
>> instances.
>> >> Even that of the daunting reattachment of your sense of irony.
>> Cheers?
>> >>
>> >> GAVIN
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> PS Reset the system clock.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> on 1/19/03 8:11 PM, Tim Romano at [log in to unmask] wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> You can stick your head in a bucket of wet cement and get the
>> same effect
>> >>> if it's silence you're after.
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> At 05:00 PM 1/19/03 -0500, Thomas Fortenberry wrote:
>> >>>> In a message dated 1/19/2003 12:01:16 AM Eastern Standard Time,
>> >>>> [log in to unmask] writes:
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>> After that disturbing exchange between old hands and the
>> periodic
>> >> spate of
>> >>>>> muddleheaded interlopers, it is good to see that this list has
>> gotten
>> >> back
>> >>>>> to its customary state of cadaverous repose. We have reached
>> satori
>> once
>> >>>>> again.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> GAVIN
>> >>>>
>> >>>> This is the best message posted to the list in, oh, about a
>> month and
>> >> a half.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Cheers,
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Thomas
>
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