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You should be so tone-deaf maybe.

At 10:45 AM 3/21/02 -0500, you wrote:
>You have to be tone-deaf to that gentleman's mockery of a
>Yiddish accent to miss the stink (pardon the mixed metaphor)
>of anti-semitism.  The current political situation does not
>justify Jew-hatred, but it is obviously providing perfect cover,
>under the shield of anti-zionism, to permit the academic
>skinheads to emerge from under their rocks.
>==Dan
>
>At 07:52 AM 03/21/2002 -0500, you wrote:
>>Dan,
>>For Chas. to have pointed out, however sardonically, that NPR is airing the
>>Yiddish Radio Project
>>http://www.npr.org/programs/atc/yiddish/index.html  at this juncture in the
>>Israel-Palestine crisis (when attention should be focused on the history of
>>that bloody conflict and its resolution) is not evidence of
>>"Jew-hating".  Ariel Sharon  is on the air at this time and he is no
>>comedian.
>>Tim Romano
>>
>>
>>
>>At 12:57 PM 3/20/02 -0500, you wrote:
>>>Most of y'all will recognize that, not surprisingly, the Pound list
>>>has become the refuge and vomitorium of the Jew-hating dregs
>>>of academia.
>>>==Dan
>>>
>>>At 08:04 AM 03/20/2002 -0800, you wrote:
>>>>Don't worry, Dan, the cure for all our liberal doubts is just around the
>>>>corner. We're about to get "10", yes, "10" weeks of old Yiddish "sti(u:)k"
>>>>theatre recordings on NPR. OI! So I'm never goingk to laugh zo hard in all
>>>>my life?
>>>>
>>>>----------
>>>> >From: Daniel Pearlman <[log in to unmask]>
>>>> >To: [log in to unmask]
>>>> >Subject: Re: internet petition
>>>> >Date: Tue, Mar 19, 2002, 11:29 PM
>>>> >
>>>>
>>>> > Carroll and Sarab make very nice twins, don't they?
>>>> > Each equally objective and balanced in their totally
>>>> > unbiased readings of history?
>>>> > ==Dan
>>>> >
>>>> > At 10:00 PM 03/19/2002 -0600, you wrote:
>>>> >>Sarab Nihal Singh wrote:
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > I would prefer to go to the root cause of this chronic problem
>>>>mentioned in
>>>> >> > Bob's email and sign a petition against Prophet Mohamed for his war
>>>>crimes
>>>> >> > against humanity. He has caused the most ideological and ethnic
>>>> >> cleansing in
>>>> >> > known history. The psychotic freaks (Aurangzeb, Ghazni, et al) in his
>>>> >> > tradition have done worst damage than Israel or US can do in all of
>>>>Islam's
>>>> >> > pathetic, enslaved and oppressive colonies.
>>>> >> >
>>>> >>
>>>> >>I did not respond to Bob's email because at least once before on this
>>>> >>list he has confused Jews witrh Zionists -- and that is unacceptable for
>>>> >>several reasons. First, though of secondary concern, is that a group of
>>>> >>Pound lovers (which I assume most of us are) should be quite careful
>>>> >>around the subject of anti-semitism But of greater, and more politically
>>>> >>relevant concern, is that the chief, perhaps the _only_ serious weapon
>>>> >>in the hands of criminal Zionism (the phrase is really, now, redundant)
>>>> >>is precisely the identification of anti-zionism with anti-semitism.
>>>> >>Without this protection, Israel would stand revealed clearly to all for
>>>> >>what it is and has been -- a criminal state, an ally of tyrannical and
>>>> >>racist regimes around the world (e.g., it was, next to the United
>>>> >>States, the warmest friend of apartheid South Africa, and it was the
>>>> >>conduit for a good deal of U.S. aid to the murderous thugs known as
>>>> >>Contras in Nicaragua).
>>>> >>
>>>> >>Israel's very existence is a crime, and the bloodshed now going on in
>>>> >>Palestine is _wholly_ the fault of the Israeli state. Israeli terrorism
>>>> >>(the state was born in terrorism and has been a perpetrator of terrorism
>>>> >>fever since) is not the only but it is a major element in the conditions
>>>> >>that have given Al Quaida terrorists the popular support (or illusion of
>>>> >>popular support) that any terrorist organization needs, to maintain its
>>>> >>morale if for no other reason: men who could have relatively peaceful
>>>> >>and prosperous lives do not lightly throw away those lives as did the
>>>> >>perpetrators of 9/11.
>>>> >>
>>>> >>As for Islam and Muhamed. The post I am responding to is ridiculous, but
>>>> >>I'll just focus on a couple of points here.
>>>> >>
>>>> >>First of all, one might say that Islam was virtually the inventor of
>>>> >>religious tolerance, and for a thousand years while Jews were being
>>>> >>persecuted in Europe the Islamic countries provided a place of refuge
>>>> >>not only for Jews but for "hetetical" Christians. Most of whatever
>>>> >>culture medieval Europe possessed they owed to the Arabs and Islamic
>>>> >>culture. (Arabic numbers came from India, but it was the Arabs who
>>>> >>introduced them to europe.)
>>>> >>
>>>> >>Secondly, for 50 years the United States has pursued an unrelenting
>>>> >>savagery (often using "fundamentalist Muslims as its tool) against every
>>>> >>democratic or secular movement in the Middle East and South Asia. It was
>>>> >>the U.S. that destroyed Iran's best hope for democracy, Mossedegh. It
>>>> >>was the U.S., under Carter, that deliberately interfered in Afghanistan
>>>> >>for no other reason that to provoke Soviet interference, and it was the
>>>> >>U.S. that was responsible for the virtual wiping out of all secular or
>>>> >>democratic forces in Afghanistan.
>>>> >>
>>>> >>And it is the U.S. and Israel that have been the unrelenting foes of any
>>>> >>secular left forces among the Palestinians and have deliberately and
>>>> >>with consciously bloody intent encouraged the flourishing of religious
>>>> >>fanaticism among the Palestinians.
>>>> >>
>>>> >>Freedom for the Palestinians will not by itself bring peace to the
>>>> >>middle east, but nothing else will either until the rogue state of
>>>> >>Israel is brought under control.
>>>> >>
>>>> >>Carrol Cox
>>>> >
>>>> > Dan Pearlman's home page:
>>>> > http://pages.zdnet.com/danpearl/danpearlman/
>>>> >
>>>> > My new fiction collection, THE BEST-KNOWN MAN IN THE WORLD AND OTHER
>>>> > MISFITS, may be ordered online at http://www.aardwolfpress.com/
>>>> > "Perfectly-crafted gems": Jack Dann, Nebula & World Fantasy Award winner
>>>> >
>>>> > Director, Council for the Literature of the Fantastic:
>>>> > http://www.uri.edu/artsci/english/clf/
>>>> >
>>>> > OFFICE:
>>>> > Department of English
>>>> > University of Rhode Island
>>>> > Kingston, RI 02881
>>>> > Tel.: 401 874-4659
>>>> > Fax: (253) 681-8518
>>>> > email: [log in to unmask]
>>>
>>>Dan Pearlman's home page:
>>>http://pages.zdnet.com/danpearl/danpearlman/
>>>
>>>My new fiction collection, THE BEST-KNOWN MAN IN THE WORLD AND OTHER
>>>MISFITS, may be ordered online at http://www.aardwolfpress.com/
>>>"Perfectly-crafted gems": Jack Dann, Nebula & World Fantasy Award winner
>>>
>>>Director, Council for the Literature of the Fantastic:
>>>http://www.uri.edu/artsci/english/clf/
>>>
>>>OFFICE:
>>>Department of English
>>>University of Rhode Island
>>>Kingston, RI 02881
>>>Tel.: 401 874-4659
>>>Fax: (253) 681-8518
>>>email: [log in to unmask]
>>
>>Dan Pearlman's home page:
>>http://pages.zdnet.com/danpearl/danpearlman/
>>
>>My new fiction collection, THE BEST-KNOWN MAN IN THE WORLD AND OTHER
>>MISFITS, may be ordered online at http://www.aardwolfpress.com/
>>"Perfectly-crafted gems": Jack Dann, Nebula & World Fantasy Award winner
>>
>>Director, Council for the Literature of the Fantastic:
>>http://www.uri.edu/artsci/english/clf/
>>
>>OFFICE:
>>Department of English
>>University of Rhode Island
>>Kingston, RI 02881
>>Tel.: 401 874-4659
>>Fax: (253) 681-8518
>>email: [log in to unmask]

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