>From: Daniel Pearlman <[log in to unmask]>
>Reply-To: - Ezra Pound discussion list of the University of Maine
>    <[log in to unmask]>
>To: [log in to unmask]
>Subject: Re: internet petition
>Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2002 12:57:08 -0500
>
>Most of y'all will recognize that, not surprisingly, the Pound list
>has become the refuge and vomitorium of the Jew-hating dregs
>of academia.
>==Dan
>
>At 08:04 AM 03/20/2002 -0800, you wrote:
>>Don't worry, Dan, the cure for all our liberal doubts is just around the
>>corner. We're about to get "10", yes, "10" weeks of old Yiddish "sti(u:)k"
>>theatre recordings on NPR. OI! So I'm never goingk to laugh zo hard in all
>>my life?
>>
>>----------
>> >From: Daniel Pearlman <[log in to unmask]>
>> >To: [log in to unmask]
>> >Subject: Re: internet petition
>> >Date: Tue, Mar 19, 2002, 11:29 PM
>> >
>>
>> > Carroll and Sarab make very nice twins, don't they?
>> > Each equally objective and balanced in their totally
>> > unbiased readings of history?
>> > ==Dan
>> >
>> > At 10:00 PM 03/19/2002 -0600, you wrote:
>> >>Sarab Nihal Singh wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> > I would prefer to go to the root cause of this chronic problem
>>mentioned in
>> >> > Bob's email and sign a petition against Prophet Mohamed for his war
>>crimes
>> >> > against humanity. He has caused the most ideological and ethnic
>> >> cleansing in
>> >> > known history. The psychotic freaks (Aurangzeb, Ghazni, et al) in
>>his
>> >> > tradition have done worst damage than Israel or US can do in all of
>>Islam's
>> >> > pathetic, enslaved and oppressive colonies.
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >>I did not respond to Bob's email because at least once before on this
>> >>list he has confused Jews witrh Zionists -- and that is unacceptable
>>for
>> >>several reasons. First, though of secondary concern, is that a group of
>> >>Pound lovers (which I assume most of us are) should be quite careful
>> >>around the subject of anti-semitism But of greater, and more
>>politically
>> >>relevant concern, is that the chief, perhaps the _only_ serious weapon
>> >>in the hands of criminal Zionism (the phrase is really, now, redundant)
>> >>is precisely the identification of anti-zionism with anti-semitism.
>> >>Without this protection, Israel would stand revealed clearly to all for
>> >>what it is and has been -- a criminal state, an ally of tyrannical and
>> >>racist regimes around the world (e.g., it was, next to the United
>> >>States, the warmest friend of apartheid South Africa, and it was the
>> >>conduit for a good deal of U.S. aid to the murderous thugs known as
>> >>Contras in Nicaragua).
>> >>
>> >>Israel's very existence is a crime, and the bloodshed now going on in
>> >>Palestine is _wholly_ the fault of the Israeli state. Israeli terrorism
>> >>(the state was born in terrorism and has been a perpetrator of
>>terrorism
>> >>fever since) is not the only but it is a major element in the
>>conditions
>> >>that have given Al Quaida terrorists the popular support (or illusion
>>of
>> >>popular support) that any terrorist organization needs, to maintain its
>> >>morale if for no other reason: men who could have relatively peaceful
>> >>and prosperous lives do not lightly throw away those lives as did the
>> >>perpetrators of 9/11.
>> >>
>> >>As for Islam and Muhamed. The post I am responding to is ridiculous,
>>but
>> >>I'll just focus on a couple of points here.
>> >>
>> >>First of all, one might say that Islam was virtually the inventor of
>> >>religious tolerance, and for a thousand years while Jews were being
>> >>persecuted in Europe the Islamic countries provided a place of refuge
>> >>not only for Jews but for "hetetical" Christians. Most of whatever
>> >>culture medieval Europe possessed they owed to the Arabs and Islamic
>> >>culture. (Arabic numbers came from India, but it was the Arabs who
>> >>introduced them to europe.)
>> >>
>> >>Secondly, for 50 years the United States has pursued an unrelenting
>> >>savagery (often using "fundamentalist Muslims as its tool) against
>>every
>> >>democratic or secular movement in the Middle East and South Asia. It
>>was
>> >>the U.S. that destroyed Iran's best hope for democracy, Mossedegh. It
>> >>was the U.S., under Carter, that deliberately interfered in Afghanistan
>> >>for no other reason that to provoke Soviet interference, and it was the
>> >>U.S. that was responsible for the virtual wiping out of all secular or
>> >>democratic forces in Afghanistan.
>> >>
>> >>And it is the U.S. and Israel that have been the unrelenting foes of
>>any
>> >>secular left forces among the Palestinians and have deliberately and
>> >>with consciously bloody intent encouraged the flourishing of religious
>> >>fanaticism among the Palestinians.
>> >>
>> >>Freedom for the Palestinians will not by itself bring peace to the
>> >>middle east, but nothing else will either until the rogue state of
>> >>Israel is brought under control.
>> >>
>> >>Carrol Cox
>> >
>> > Dan Pearlman's home page:
>> > http://pages.zdnet.com/danpearl/danpearlman/
>> >
>> > My new fiction collection, THE BEST-KNOWN MAN IN THE WORLD AND OTHER
>> > MISFITS, may be ordered online at http://www.aardwolfpress.com/
>> > "Perfectly-crafted gems": Jack Dann, Nebula & World Fantasy Award
>>winner
>> >
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>
>Dan Pearlman's home page:
>http://pages.zdnet.com/danpearl/danpearlman/
>
>My new fiction collection, THE BEST-KNOWN MAN IN THE WORLD AND OTHER
>MISFITS, may be ordered online at http://www.aardwolfpress.com/
>"Perfectly-crafted gems": Jack Dann, Nebula & World Fantasy Award winner
>
>Director, Council for the Literature of the Fantastic:
>http://www.uri.edu/artsci/english/clf/
>
>OFFICE:
>Department of English
>University of Rhode Island
>Kingston, RI 02881
>Tel.: 401 874-4659
>Fax: (253) 681-8518
>email: [log in to unmask]


but dammitall, Dan, some of my best friends are fascists

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