Wei. Thanks for refering me to your essay. I just printed it out and, to
avoid customers, locked myself in the bathroom and began reading. I'll
try to make this brief because again I'm being besieged.
I haven't gotten far in your essay and I intend to give it a fair
reading. But already I see problems. You begin with a number of familiar
quotes from Pound and at the bottom of page one you interject "[Pound]
really does himself as a victim." In American culture, especially
literary culture Pound's stance toward forces far more powerful than he
and the statements you cite would be deemed heroic, not the actions of a
"victim". Your interpretation is in some "literal" sense accurate but
figuratively, poetically, misses a great theme in American
literature--the courageous individual standing up against established
power. The fact that the forces arrayed against Pound can squash him if
he ever accrued enough power and support for his ideas is irrelevant.
Pound's actions are not the actions of a "victim" but an expression of
that American quality that anyone can take on forces immensely more
power than they are, and certainly beyond their capacties to change.
Right now, I am contact with the Concept artist, Henry Flynt, who has
told me straight up that his intention is to bring down the sciences by
exposing the flaws in current epistemology and presenting practical
alternatives. I think Flynt's a genius so you gather from that what that
says about me. But Flynt a victim? Never. And what's important is Flynt
doesn't believe he's a victim any more than Pound did (or would). I
don't want to argue every little point with you, because I think the
problem is not in the detail. Throwing a half dozen quotes from Pound
when he's experiencing a bout of depression or frustration won't alter
my notion either. Minute inspection of the material will not be resolved
if one does not assess one's initial intentions and overall telos. And
that goes for all of us. Gotta go mail some books. Carlo Parcelli

     En Lin Wei wrote:
>
> "R.Gancie/C.Parcelli" <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
> <<Subject: Re: Anti-communism and/or Anti-egalitarianism
>
> Actually, Wei, you are just the person to help me with an aspect of one
> of my projects. I posed this question to the list before and got a small
> but not detailed response. Recent reference to the Histoire de la Chine
> reminded me of it. Is there any evidence that Pound came to his
> knowledge of Confucious through the French Physiocrats. I have
> encountered a number of instances where it is mentioned that the
> Physiocrats translated Chinese texts and imbued their own approaches to
> ecomonics and philosophy with Chinese agrarian principles. Quesnay, an
> economist, of course was a leading light. The snug fit with Pound's
> predilections is suggestive though a perusal of Quesnay's economic
> theory has proven problematic. I haven't read the Histoire de la Chine.
> My work on Pound included reading three one volume histories of China at
> least one translated from the French. I read a lot of Confucious to
> engage Pound. I read a lot of Taoism for myself. Carlo Parcelli>>
>
> I have some material on Pound, Confucianism and physiocracy in an essay
> called "Ideograms and Economics".
>
> http://www.geocities.com/weienlin/econ.html
>
> Just your "find on this page button", inputting the word "physiocracy."
>
> Even though you may disagree with my interpretation, you might find some
> useful information.
>
> <<Is there any evidence that Pound came to his
> knowledge of Confucious through the French Physiocrats. >>
>
> I would say that Pound came to physiocracy via Confucius, rather than the
> other way around.  He also came to physiocracy via Jefferson, and through
> the study of certain fascist economists, like Odon Por.  I discuss the
> modern revival of physiocracy as part of an attempt (by Pound, and others)
> to deny the validity of the labor theory of value.  He had some interesting
> arguments with Zukovsky on this point, which I mention.   Of course it is a
> complex issue; perhaps Mr. Surette can deal with it.
>
> Regards,
>
> Wei
>
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