Confucius say, "There are, thus, few men under heaven who can love and
see defects, or hate and see the excellence of the object." Did he have this
list in mind  when he said that?

    On archetypes let me throw you philosophers an Heidegger fast-ball-

    "The oldest of the old follows behind
      us in our thinking and yet it
       comes to meet us."

     Who's up?

                              Zaijan,
                            Charles