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Yeah, Bill. Sounds like your'e on the right end of the gunbarrel. CP

Bill Wagner wrote:
>
> The one word I do not see mentioned in all of the political discussion is
> Totalitarian.
> The Hitler & Mussolini regimes were totalitarian dictatorships, and bore the
> same relationship to Fascism as Stalin's regime did to Communism.  It was
> used as the foundation of the propaganda machine that convinced the people
> in those states that they were living under a system of government that was
> dedicated in one form or another to their well-being.  All were in fact
> systems run by a handful of thugs who ruled by brute force and terror.
>
> I for one greatly prefer our current US form of Imperialism for despite it's
> many faults.
>
> Bill Wagner
>
> l
> .Gancie/C.Parcelli" wrote:
>
> > I agree with much of what En Lin Wei says in this post, but only because
> > he does not speak to the issue. The only reason he can deliver such
> > posts is because he accepts Pound's conflation of Confucious/ Mencius,
> > Mussolini, National Socialism, ancient imperial regimes of many stripes
> > as being the standard for fascism. Then, taking Pound's indiosyncratic
> > formulations, in a feat of (a)mazing intellectual gymnastics and
> > personal bile, he portions out Pound's version of these varied elements
> > as those most descriptive to their historical nature. He/she proceeds
> > with no sense of irony or understanding of how other people hear such
> > things.
> > This is also because, according to En Lin Wei "We have to distinguish
> > between different types of imperialism here." But all the "distinctions"
> > En Lin Wen recognizes are set by Pound. So Pound's notions of Fascism
> > fit into Pound's notions of fascism. When En Lin Wei introduces
> > historical buttresses for his argument, he/she is utterly blind to how
> > tendentious and bullshit a fit his criticism is to Pound's poetry.
> >
> > As for my criticism of the Han Dynasty. It is involved with my critique
> > of the epistemology of science and involves the standardization of
> > weights and measures under the Ch'in. My poem which contains much of
> > this material is unpublished. However, a more recent refinement of the
> > ideas without recourse to the Han or Ch'in, is available at
> > wedelsol.com/FLASHPOINT. It is called Deconstructing the Demiurge: Tale
> > of the Tribe and unlike some recent Poundian scholarship does not rely
> > on canards.
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