At 07:20 AM 6/4/99 -0700, Deron Treadwell wrote:
>--- Larry Winer <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>> I appreciate the fact we are having a civilised debate on this issue.
>
>As do I.
>
>> Football is often the sport that generates the $ for the rest of the
>> sports.
>
>I will concede that football can generate a lot of money in terms of
>gate receipts, endorsements, etc., but only for the top tier programs
>at the D-IA level.. even saying that, as Arthur suggests with reference
>to the SI article, it is unclear how much money actually goes to other
>sports from football (or basketball, etc.)
>
>Does football generate more money than any women's sport, likely yes.
>I don't want to get rid of football.
I love hockey but I'm also a football fan...being an Ohio State grad makes
that almost an imperative. I won't discuss other schools but I have seen
data on the OSU program. It is data in the pre-Schott period so the figures
for hockey are much lower than in 1998-99. For what it is worth here are
some of the revenue and expense data:
Revenue (in $1000)
Football 17,026
M Bball 5400
WBball 187
Hockey 104
Other Men 93
Other Women 28
Fund Raising
Buckeye Club 5727
Other 515
Woody Hayes Center 120
Bowl Rev-direct 3,128
Endowment Income 423
Royalties 419
Other 176
Misc
Admin (TV, etc) 3379
Golf Course 2996
Bowls-Big Ten 1460
Scoreboard Sponsers 1444
Sports camps 906
Ice Rink 723
Merchandising 591
Parking 543
Promotions 334
Programs 312
Clinics 120
Sports Championshios 17
Jesse Owens Classic 15
TOTAL 46,151
Expenses 1997/98
Operating ($1000)
Operating* 12,984
Inderect overhead 1,961
Phys Plant Assess 733
Equipment 727
*meals, lodging, recruiting,etc.
Admin 6994
Special 3218
Benefits 2881
Wages 1601
Classified 1464
Capital expenses
Woody Hayes center 1130
Small projects 984
St. John Scoreboard 130
Other
Grant-in -aid 5164
Bowl expenses 2873
Non-operating 1376
Cost containment (?) 639
Other 153
Contingency 140
TOTAL 45,152
As you can see, football and men's bball basically pay for the non-revenue
and the Title IX sports. There are 33 varsity sports at Ohio State and it
is only possible because of football. The AD has worked hard at expanding
women's sports and improving men's sports at the same time. In recent years
the women's hockey, crew and lacrosse have been added and more scholarships
have been added to other women's sports (in the past, some of the women's
sports were not getting as many ships as allowed by the NCAA).
These sports are also paying for the quarter of a billion dollars being
spent on improving the sporting facilities at OSU. I have not seen the
figures but it looks like hockey is starting to help pay for Title IX
sports, The Schott, the new Jesse Owens Track Facility (it also will be used
for soccer and lacrosse), the Bill Davis Baseball Stadium, a remodled and
expanded Ohio Stadium and other improvements. There aren't tax dollars or
student fees being used for these facilities.
I'm darn proud of Ohio State and how it decided to meet Title IX by adding
rather than subtracting. It would not be possible without football.
Bob Svec
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