Mike wrote:
 
>
> Geoff Howell discusses the question of whether recruited student-athletes
> may receive need-based aid and have it not count towards the scholarship
> totals for a particular sport (i.e. hockey, which in DivI has a limit
> of 18.0 by 15.5.3.1).
>
> Here are what I believe to be the applicable rules for this situation:
>
> (BEGIN EXCERPTS FROM 1994-95 NCAA MANUAL)
>
> 15.02.3 COUNTER.  A "counter" is an individual who is receiving
> institutional financial aid that is countable against the aid
> limitations established in a sport by the institution's membership
> division.
>
> 15.02.4 FINANCIAL AID
>  15.02.4.1 INSTITUTIONAL FINANCIAL AID.  The following sources of
>  financial aid are considered to be institutional financial aid:
>  a) All funds administered by the institution (e.g., scholarships,
>  grants, loans, work-study program assistance, on-campus employment,
>  tuition waivers, employee dependent tuition benefits);
>  [three other examples deleted]
>
> 15.5.1 COUNTERS.  A student-athlete shall be a counter and included in
> the maximum awards limitations set forth in this bylaw under the
> following conditions.
>
>  15.5.1.1 ATHLETICS AID RECEIVED.  A student-athlete who is receiving
>  financial aid based in any degree upon athletics shall become a
>  counter for the year during which the student-athlete receives the
>  financial aid.
>
>  15.5.1.2 RECRUITED STUDENT-ATHLETE.
>  [much deleted pertaining to DivI football and basketball]
>
>   15.5.1.2.3 SPORTS OTHER THAN FOOTBALL AND BASKETBALL.  In all sports
>   other than football and basketball in Division I and in all sports in
>   Division II, a student-athlete who was recruited by the awarding
>   institution and who is receiving institutional financial aid (as set
>   forth in 15.02.4.1) shall be a counter unless there is on file in the
>   office of the athletics director certification by the faculty
>   athletics representative and in the director of financial aid that the
>   student's financial aid was granted without regard in any degree to
>   athletics ability.
>
> (END EXCERPTS)
>
> So in short, based upon 15.5.1.2.3, I believe that need-based aid is
> exempted from the program's limitation as long as the school can
> provide verification that such aid was granted without any
> consideration given to athletics.
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> Mike Machnik                                            [log in to unmask]
> Cabletron Systems, Inc.                                    *HMM* 11/13/93
>
 
I don't claim to totally understand what Mike quoted above.  What I
wonder is how these rules apply to schools that don't award athletic
scholarships (e.g., the Ivies).  It has been mentioned several times
over the two years that I have read Hockey-L, and I have also seen it
mentioned in newspapers, that the Ivies (and other schools also, I am
sure) look at the total picture of any incoming student when deciding
upon financial aid -- including whether they play sports.  Thus it
would seem that every recruited hockey player at the Ivy League
schools would count to the 18-player limit (assuming they receive some
type of financial aid).  Now, I think that the Ivies still have JV
teams and thus probably have more than 18 players who count against
the limit, even though none receives an athletic scholarship.  Is this
correct?
 
Ralph Baer
RPI '68, '70, '74